I finally got MGA sculpting to work for me. I think the key is a lighter conditioner. Today I washed with my CV carrot milk and honey bar, did a white vinegar rinse, conditioned with NG rose and persimmon, and styled with about 7 quarters of MGA. The result is more volume vs my homemade FSG, clumping up to the crown, good frizz control and hold, but skinnier clumps. Holdwise, it seems to rival BRHG for me. Amazing considering it’s a natural gel! Overall, I’d give MGA a 7-8 out of 10.